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Post by Site Steward on Jan 24, 2009 15:30:40 GMT -5
There's widespread concern about management redirecting feeder work to UPS Freight. Have you seen this happen in your local?
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Post by mollies on Jan 29, 2009 19:55:33 GMT -5
I have heard that, right from the District Feeder Manager himself. It has yet to take place within our district, but you know its coming. I hope Ups is prepared to start keeping track of the weight of its trailers. That's something they've never had to concern themselves of in feeders, and if the plan is to utilize the two, the DOT might be interested.
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Post by ac on Jan 29, 2009 22:44:14 GMT -5
Do not know of feeder work directly being redirected. However, UPS is using the package net work to provide sales leads for freight, I am sure the sales force will sell whatever service they can. Ever wonder what happened to the hundred weight service UPS used to offer to compete in freight?
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Post by local804 on Feb 2, 2009 19:49:57 GMT -5
I used to see 1 freight tractor in my area now I see a bunch. Freight has been moving packages across zones ( zone jumping) for a while and now that they are union, it makes it that much easier for them. Teamsters doing teamsters jobs(so they say). The only ones getting fked are the UPS feeder drivers out of that deal.
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Post by surprisejebfd on Feb 2, 2009 21:42:33 GMT -5
elgible feeder drivers need to retire. with all of the layoffs by feeder drivers as well as pkg car drivers that are elgible for retirement , quit thinking of yourselves and hang up the brown uniform. you guys and gals are clogging up the system.
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Post by danjcamp on Feb 3, 2009 11:05:47 GMT -5
In the Central States and other areas the cost of retiree health care is preventing feeder drivers and other full timers who could retire from pulling the plug. Uncertain econimic times makes everyone hesitate when it comes to the decision to retire. This is one of the reasons retirement language at contract time is important to everyone and not just full timers thinking about retirement. For UPS'ers in the Central States and in a few other areas, this last contract was a disaster for future retirees. Allowing UPS out of Central States will eventually be seen for the really bad decision it is. UPS'ers in many other areas like upstate NY and the West will pull further and further ahead of Central States UPS'ers in retiree benefits. It is a bonanza for UPS and a bummer for UPS'ers.
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Post by omlo75 on Feb 3, 2009 21:10:09 GMT -5
I would say some of the drivers do not retire due to health benefits but a large portion of drivers do not retire due to lifestyles. Many drivers in my hub that is within the central states plan live well above their means. Buying lavish homes with adjustable rate mortgages have made them addicted to overtime. Many drivers could not survive on a straight eight. Also in my hub, the drivers have the highest divorce rate among any classification. As most of us know drivers spend any where between 10 to 12 hours a day driving leaving hardly any time to take care of home. This creates of course more expenses that the driver must endure. Ups management looks for these type of drivers to prey on their financial disadvantages. I have seen alot of my friends taken advantage of just for the reasons mentioned. The central states plan is awful but Upsers have to be rational in making life decisions.
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Post by gwf1909 on Feb 4, 2009 14:49:17 GMT -5
HEY NEED TO GET SOME INFORMATION- DOES ANYONE KNOW OF ANY ACCIDENTS WHERE NO TICKET WAS ISSUED-AND THE TEAMSTER HAD A WITTNESS THATHE DRIVER LOST THIER JOB!
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Post by gwf1909 on Feb 4, 2009 14:51:11 GMT -5
YOU JUST ARE THINKING ABOUT YOURSELF GROW UP!
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Post by omlo75 on Feb 4, 2009 15:44:24 GMT -5
In actuality I am thinking about my fellow teamsters. I am already a full time employee and I work a straight eight hours. I do not believe in overtime for myself because eight hours is enough for me to survive because I manage my expenses and save properly. I try to leave something out there on the table for the rest of the part timers who are just struggling to get four hours. I practice what I preach.
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Post by mollies on Feb 4, 2009 20:43:21 GMT -5
elgible feeder drivers need to retire. with all of the layoffs by feeder drivers as well as pkg car drivers that are elgible for retirement , quit thinking of yourselves and hang up the brown uniform. you guys and gals are clogging up the system. Please! Surprise me with an in depth explanation as to how retirement plays into management redirecting feeder work. That is the topic of this thread. |
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Post by mollies on Feb 4, 2009 20:59:08 GMT -5
In actuality I am thinking about my fellow teamsters. I am already a full time employee and I work a straight eight hours. I do not believe in overtime for myself because eight hours is enough for me to survive because I manage my expenses and save properly. I try to leave something out there on the table for the rest of the part timers who are just struggling to get four hours. I practice what I preach. I commend you on thinking of your fellow Teamsters. I hope you can continue to work a straight 8 hours. You're one of the lucky ones, for there are many among us whom have no choice in the matter. Not because of lavish lifestyles etc., but because that's the way we're dispatched. I'm curious as to how you manage to turn down working as directed beyond your 8 hours a day? |
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Post by omlo75 on Feb 4, 2009 22:26:47 GMT -5
In actuality I am thinking about my fellow teamsters. I am already a full time employee and I work a straight eight hours. I do not believe in overtime for myself because eight hours is enough for me to survive because I manage my expenses and save properly. I try to leave something out there on the table for the rest of the part timers who are just struggling to get four hours. I practice what I preach. I commend you on thinking of your fellow Teamsters. I hope you can continue to work a straight 8 hours. You're one of the lucky ones, for there are many among us whom have no choice in the matter. Not because of lavish lifestyles etc., but because that's the way we're dispatched. I'm curious as to how you manage to turn down working as directed beyond your 8 hours a day? I do understand some individuals have children and so forth and so on and I am not critical of those individuals what so ever. I can only speak on what I see in my area with some of the drivers. I am a 22.3 and contract states that I am only required to work eight hours period. I was a package car driver at one point and was exploited and said enough is enough. On top of that I have been known to stand up for my rights and will go above and beyond my union to do so. I am seen as the trouble maker to management even nick named Bin Laden by a couple of managers. |
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Post by surprisejebfd on Feb 5, 2009 15:53:30 GMT -5
eligible feeder drivers need to retire. with all of the layoffs by feeder drivers as well as pkg car drivers that are eligible for retirement , quit thinking of yourselves and hang up the brown uniform. you guys and gals are clogging up the system. Please! Surprise me with an in depth explanation as to how retirement plays into management redirecting feeder work. That is the topic of this thread. I did it to grab attention to the fact that eligible feeder drivers and pkg car drivers need to retire. there are drivers getting laid off because the system is clogged up. drivers that get laid off are forced back into the hub and take a severe pay cut. every response that I get no matter the which web site I voice my opinion on, is all the same. lifestyles and they always blame that on the company for allowing them to get used to making good money. and we all know, the more you make the more you spend. well, that is all good. from the day 1 is eligible for retirement and they continue to work the begin to piss away there pension. it is time to grow up and take responsibility for themselves, the longer they work the longer their lifestyle will be what it is. |
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Post by mollies on Feb 5, 2009 21:16:49 GMT -5
Please! Surprise me with an in depth explanation as to how retirement plays into management redirecting feeder work. That is the topic of this thread. I did it to grab attention to the fact that eligible feeder drivers and pkg car drivers need to retire. there are drivers getting laid off because the system is clogged up. drivers that get laid off are forced back into the hub and take a severe pay cut. every response that I get no matter the which web site I voice my opinion on, is all the same. lifestyles and they always blame that on the company for allowing them to get used to making good money. and we all know, the more you make the more you spend. well, that is all good. from the day 1 is eligible for retirement and they continue to work the begin to piss away there pension. it is time to grow up and take responsibility for themselves, the longer they work the longer their lifestyle will be what it is. Perhaps you should have posted your thoughts under general discussions. |
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